[ Yuji is fully prepared to go off on a tangent about his martial arts training, but the soft words from Geto-san have him stopping, at least for now. ]
Yeah. Remind me later, or I'll definitely forget.
[ Right now, his body is hyperfocused on the touches, the way that Geto's hand is moving over him, his fingers flexing. He doesn't even think to move his arms back in front of him, keeping them awkwardly in place as the attention shifts to his legs, instead.
He hadn't even considered his legs being tied up like that, but...
[ But now that the option is right there in front of him... Yuji hesitates a little, gaze lifting to look at Suguru before he blinks away. It's strange, to be suddenly shy when they're talking about doing something as intense as rope together, but...
This is something different. ]
I've done a little bit, but I can take a lot of pain, so it's kind of freaked people out, before.
[ High endurance and higher pain tolerance makes for people panicking over hurting him when he's fine. ]
Hmmm, unfortunately, I'm very familiar with that reaction – usually from people who've never encountered heavy bottoms before. But it can be quite a boon to have a high pain tolerance in this environment, I assure you.
[ Suguru himself has slept with and played with tops who weren't prepared for the level of pain that he could tolerate, that he would often solicit and encourage from proclaimed-sadists. As he's gotten older, he's learned how to select partners strong enough that they won't balk at Suguru's threshold for pain and physical punishment – but he remembers the early days of exploration that occasionally left him feeling out of place among other kinksters. He had to find the people whose style matched his own. On the other hand, he falls so naturally into his own sadism and need for control that he spent much of his time holding the reins to fill the community demand for proficient tops.
Now, in the role of an educator and venue owner, Suguru has a level of inherent power that he constantly minds. He doesn't play often, usually only privately, and he's selective – so the fact that Yuji caught his attention so avidly is unusual. (Maybe he sees something familiar in the younger man, something aching for acceptance and mirroring facets of Suguru's own desires. How can it not pique Suguru's curiosity?) ]
What kind of pain have you enjoyed? And what have you done before? If you don't mind me prying.
Oh, I guess it would be a good thing in a place like this.
[ Yuji's experiences are limited, unfortunately, because he's always ended up being the person in charge, or topping, or doing whatever his partner wants, so... It means that he's left to the realm of idle fantasy, that he's left to daydream about what he wants, and when he thinks about pain he knows he can handle a lot of it. He knows that he can take and take and not shy away from the more brutal side of things, and that's okay.
If it means he can fit in here... Then maybe the only thing he has to worry about is making sure it doesn't go too far. Geto-san had mentioned something about that earlier, hadn't he?
Gazing back up at the other man, he licks his lips, nodding. ]
I can get used to it really fast, so something that I don't expect or can't prepare for is probably what I want. I've had people hit me and spank me before, but they didn't want to hurt me so it was a little... Not bad, but not enough?
[ Yuji has Suguru's full, rapt attention, his eyes fixed on the younger man's face. He's memorizing these details, formulating as they go in a constantly evolving, constantly shifting portrait of who Yuji is as a kinkster. Of course, with Yuji's level of inexperience, they're both parsing this out together, but Suguru at least has years under his belt to help Yuji learn the steps to these new dances. ]
I see. Well, I'm happy to inform you that I would very much like to hurt you, Yuji. [ There's some playful humor in his smile as he winks at the younger man. ] But only in the ways you like to be hurt.
[ He'll never expect Yuji to endure pain that he finds unenjoyable or unfulfilling. Ideally, whatever they explore can be catered to Yuji's level – or at least to a level where Yuji can differentiate between the types of pain that most suit him. When play can't even approach someone's threshold for masochism, it can be difficult to gauge where that line exists between pain that just wasn't enough or applied the right way and pain that doesn't mesh with the sensations a bottom seeks. Since Suguru knows how to make all of this happen, he hopes that he can offer Yuji a window into understanding himself a bit better. ]
What if I put you across my lap after I tie you? [ He demonstrates by running his hand flat over his own thighs. ] It will keep your weight off your arms, and your legs should naturally keep you balanced across my thighs.
[ Having someone focus on him so intently, so intensely, has Yuji's cheeks going a brighter shade of red than before. He's never had someone look at him the way that Geto is, drinking him in and clearly devouring and memorising all the things coming out of his mouth, and it's as scary as it is delicious to witness. He wants more of it, even if he's nervous about what might happen when the two of them are alone and actually doing something together.
He trusts this man, this club, this moment, but he's not sure how much he trusts himself to be good when he's already feeling so much, so desperately. ]
I'd enjoy that a lot, Geto-san. Thank you...?
[ Pain that feels good... Yuji's accustomed to pain, but having it twinned with pleasure rather than grief is something for him to look forward to, something that he is going to find himself enjoying more than he can put into words. He'll definitely talk to Geto about it more, but it seems as though right now their focus might be on the rope...? They'll have to lay it all bare before anything starts, so...
[ Suguru is practically glowing with the anticipation of putting this into action, even if they're still working out the kinks (harharhar). ]
Fair warning: the ties on your legs will cause the muscles in your thighs and ass to strain when you're in my lap – which means any spanking will likely feel more intense and potentially painful than what you're used to.
We can warm up and experiment with what feels good, but I don't want you to be caught off-guard if it hurts more than you expect right off the bat.
[ Even though Suguru really likes to make it hurt. ]
[ Yuji knows he can ask for it to stop if he needs to, can't he? That's part of the system. He can stop it, or slow it down, or keep it going, depending on how he feels - and the same for Geto-san, too. If either of them are uncomfortable, it can end.
That's what makes it feel so much safer than doing it at home. ]
We can see what works best and what we both enjoy, can't we?
We certainly can. [ That's how Suguru prefers to play, too, and if Yuji has a genuinely high pain tolerance, then it won't be a problem. But considering it's their first scene together, he likes to cover the important bases. ]
How do you feel about incorporating more sexual play, too?
[ Suguru doesn't want to overstep and make any assumptions, of course, but he's very into Yuji. He'd like to see the younger man fall apart in subspace, maybe come his brains out, but he doesn't want to pressure Yuji as the owner of the club. ]
Then there's no problem. [ This is all new to Yuji, but he knows that he can dip his toes in, so to speak, and find the kinds of things that he enjoys the most. If Geto-san wants to help him with that, then he's not going to say no.
The man is far too hot to say no to, even if Yuji had doubts about it.
Even the gentle probing about sex and sexual play is enough to have Yuji blushing, licking his lips as he blinks up at the man beside him. ]
[ Suguru is trying to be mindful about what he suggests and asks for, but he also wants to find more of where they might align; he wants to help Yuji discover this on his own as much as Suguru wants to guide him there. ]
Since it's our first time playing together, I wasn't thinking anything too extravagant or involved. How do you feel about being fingered in my lap while you're still tied up or a handjob?
[ Yuji's brain might be leaking out through his ears, actually.
Blinking, gazing up at Geto, he nods his head. Something as simple as being fingered and touched while being tied up is enough to get his cock all the more interested, hard in his trousers and feeling far, far too tight. Breathing out, he nods his head after a few moments of silent contemplation, trying to get himself to calm down.
It's difficult, because he finds that he wants this, so much. ]
[ There's a little bit of a thrill to it, the idea of someone seeing him completely blissed out, or watching him enjoy himself. Would people really want that...? To see him lose himself to pleasure?
[ That's Suguru's preference these days, so he's glad when Yuji opts for a more private option. Suguru has an exhibitionist streak a mile wide, but it's become far less pronounced as he ages; the leadership role and responsibility of being a venue owner means that he sacrifices the flexibility of being more of an unknown in their community. When Suguru plays, people know. People watch, because his skills are always at the forefront. And, while he tries to keep a lid on his ego, he also knows he's hot at hell. People want to see him show off – and Suguru likes to show off. Less so with any new play partners, but that just highlights how infrequently he has a scene with someone who isn't part of his regular rotation of trusted players.
Yuji is just special, apparently. ]
I'm sure we can find an available room. [ None of the doors lock, since DMs and staff need to be able to enter at will, but the very nature of stepping off of the main floor tends to ensure more privacy. ]
Any injuries or physical limitations I should be aware of? Any concerns you might have?
[ Yuji is overcome with the urge to kiss this man, but he's not entirely sure if that's allowed.
Instead of giving into the urge, he nods his head, glancing around the room. He's realising how important Suguru is with the way people are watching them, expectantly, as if there's going to be some kind of amazing show or some miraculous event, and it makes him a little nervous. He's brand new at this, and he doesn't think that he's going to end up being all that good, but he wants to be.
He really wants to prove himself to this man, to show that he can do it. ]
There's nothing that I can think of right now. I can use red, yellow and green for safety, can't I?
Those are the house safewords, yes. Unless you have something personal you'd prefer, but I was about to suggest we go with the traffic system.
[ Yuji beat him to the punch! ]
We'll go with Suguru. No honorific necessary. [ Suguru has no formal dynamics with anyone, and most around the club call him Geto-sama or just Geto. Nobody uses kink titles with him, he has no official subs or partners; he's clearly in charge and the man on top, but he doesn't dangle it over others' heads in a demand for deference. ]
[ Suguru is far from oblivious to the effect he has on Yuji, and it's only his own self-control that keeps him from accepting every open invitation the younger man is practically lobbing perfectly across the plate for Suguru. He knows he'd barely even have to swing to send the metaphorical ball flying out of the stadium – which is why he needs to be careful.
He doesn't want to get carried away and inadvertently do damage. ]
Let's go find ourselves some space.
[ And he rises from the couch, offering Yuji his hand. ]
[ Yuji shifts, pushing himself up and away from the sofa they'd been comfortable on, reaching out and letting his hand slide into Geto's without hesitation.
It's warm, and large, and it makes him swallow.
Everything about him is so attractive, so outrageously sexy, that Yuji has no idea how he was the one chosen for tonight. What could he have done to earn this? It's utterly baffling, but he's not going to let it slip through his fingers. He wants this too much for that. ]
[ It's so charming how Yuji leaps to follow his instructions like an overeager puppy, practically tripping over himself to please Suguru. How can he not find that endearing?
And hot.
Leading Yuji out of the more lounge-like room, Suguru carves a path through the various scenes occurring throughout the space, giving the occasional nod or wave to his staff as he goes. When they reach the more private location where Suguru stores his belongings, he's pleased to see that no one is currently using the room, despite the fact that it's clearly dedicated to rope. There are multiple hardpoints on the ceiling with rings and carabiners waiting to be used; there's a bamboo log suspended about six feet above the ground for different kinbaku and shibari options, and a steel spider is tucked into the corner. There aren't a plethora of riggers vying for space, so Suguru doesn't usually have to worry about waiting to use any of the facilities (despite owning it all, he doesn't presume to call dibs).
Suguru releases Yuji's hand only to go to a closet tucked in the corner, pulling a key from his pocket to unlock it. He calls casually over his shoulder, ]
Go ahead and take off everything you're comfortable removing. I just need to unpack my supplies, if you don't mind giving me a moment.
[ And he brings over a couple of duffle bags that had been locked away for safe keeping, dropping them onto the floor and kneeling to start sorting through the hanks of rope. ]
[ Yuji cannot help but be desperately curious as they walk through together, Suguru’s hand warm in his own, the way his cheeks flush hot with warmth and his body tingles with desire.
People keep staring at them as they move, and Yuji can’t tell if they’re looking at him or the man beside him, and he feels a curl of something sour inside him. He feels marginally possessive over Suguru despite having just met, which is a silly, foolish thing to feel over a stranger.
They barely know each other. They’re just going to play. He has to keep himself calm, tamed.
Breathing out as soon as they’re somewhere private, Yuji steps over and starts to tug off his clothes. Later by layer they’re folded and placed aside, licking his lips as he turns to watch Suguru - until he’s dressed in nothing but his underwear, cheeks neon even in the half dark. ]
[ As Yuji gets undressed, Suguru unpacks his ropes, some safety shears, and a knife. He sets them all aside and within easy reach, looking up again when Yuji speaks. ]
What a good question.
[ Suguru hums as he surveys the room, and then steps aside to retrieve one of the chairs that line the walls, making easy seating for observers or people waiting to use the space. But for him and Yuji, it should work just fine.
Moving the chair into the middle of the floor, Suguru gestures to a spot right in front of the seat. ]
Why don't you kneel on the floor here? I'll tie you on the ground, and then I should be able to lift you and put you in my lap on the chair.
[ Because even if Yuji looks... dense, Suguru is confident he can lift the guy when he's all trussed up and get Yuji situated in his lap, while Suguru occupies the chair. ]
That should make it easy to spank you over my knee – and allow me plenty of access to the rest of you. [ Suguru winks playfully at Yuji before he shrugs out of his light jacket, setting it near Yuji's pile of clothes. ]
[ Yuji gets caught up in looking around the room as Suguru gets out the equipment he needs, attention only drawn back when the other man speaks. He knows he’s already painfully into this, embarrassed at how obvious it must be with him only in his boxers - but isn’t that a compliment too? That Suguru has him this worked up at just the promise of playing together?
Hesitating for only one more moment, he wiggles out of his underwear and adds them to the pile before he steps over to kneel down in front of the chair, tilting his head to look up at the other man.
The angle is good - from here Suguru looks huge, and Yuji is well aware of how the position looks, how he could open his mouth and offer tongue and throat - if that’s what they were into. Right now, though, there are other plans.
He wants to see those through.
Breathing out, he rests his hands on his legs, nodding. ]
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Yeah. Remind me later, or I'll definitely forget.
[ Right now, his body is hyperfocused on the touches, the way that Geto's hand is moving over him, his fingers flexing. He doesn't even think to move his arms back in front of him, keeping them awkwardly in place as the attention shifts to his legs, instead.
He hadn't even considered his legs being tied up like that, but...
Yeah. He's into it. ]
I don't think I'd mind even if it was painful.
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For now, he's much more preoccupied with this new information about Yuji. ]
A bit of a masochist, are we?
[ Fingers slowly trail along Yuji's thigh and away again, and he's back to propping up his head, watching Yuji with that wide, disarming smile. ]
Have you played much with pain?
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[ But now that the option is right there in front of him... Yuji hesitates a little, gaze lifting to look at Suguru before he blinks away. It's strange, to be suddenly shy when they're talking about doing something as intense as rope together, but...
This is something different. ]
I've done a little bit, but I can take a lot of pain, so it's kind of freaked people out, before.
[ High endurance and higher pain tolerance makes for people panicking over hurting him when he's fine. ]
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[ Suguru himself has slept with and played with tops who weren't prepared for the level of pain that he could tolerate, that he would often solicit and encourage from proclaimed-sadists. As he's gotten older, he's learned how to select partners strong enough that they won't balk at Suguru's threshold for pain and physical punishment – but he remembers the early days of exploration that occasionally left him feeling out of place among other kinksters. He had to find the people whose style matched his own. On the other hand, he falls so naturally into his own sadism and need for control that he spent much of his time holding the reins to fill the community demand for proficient tops.
Now, in the role of an educator and venue owner, Suguru has a level of inherent power that he constantly minds. He doesn't play often, usually only privately, and he's selective – so the fact that Yuji caught his attention so avidly is unusual. (Maybe he sees something familiar in the younger man, something aching for acceptance and mirroring facets of Suguru's own desires. How can it not pique Suguru's curiosity?) ]
What kind of pain have you enjoyed? And what have you done before? If you don't mind me prying.
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[ Yuji's experiences are limited, unfortunately, because he's always ended up being the person in charge, or topping, or doing whatever his partner wants, so... It means that he's left to the realm of idle fantasy, that he's left to daydream about what he wants, and when he thinks about pain he knows he can handle a lot of it. He knows that he can take and take and not shy away from the more brutal side of things, and that's okay.
If it means he can fit in here... Then maybe the only thing he has to worry about is making sure it doesn't go too far. Geto-san had mentioned something about that earlier, hadn't he?
Gazing back up at the other man, he licks his lips, nodding. ]
I can get used to it really fast, so something that I don't expect or can't prepare for is probably what I want. I've had people hit me and spank me before, but they didn't want to hurt me so it was a little... Not bad, but not enough?
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I see. Well, I'm happy to inform you that I would very much like to hurt you, Yuji. [ There's some playful humor in his smile as he winks at the younger man. ] But only in the ways you like to be hurt.
[ He'll never expect Yuji to endure pain that he finds unenjoyable or unfulfilling. Ideally, whatever they explore can be catered to Yuji's level – or at least to a level where Yuji can differentiate between the types of pain that most suit him. When play can't even approach someone's threshold for masochism, it can be difficult to gauge where that line exists between pain that just wasn't enough or applied the right way and pain that doesn't mesh with the sensations a bottom seeks. Since Suguru knows how to make all of this happen, he hopes that he can offer Yuji a window into understanding himself a bit better. ]
What if I put you across my lap after I tie you? [ He demonstrates by running his hand flat over his own thighs. ] It will keep your weight off your arms, and your legs should naturally keep you balanced across my thighs.
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He trusts this man, this club, this moment, but he's not sure how much he trusts himself to be good when he's already feeling so much, so desperately. ]
I'd enjoy that a lot, Geto-san. Thank you...?
[ Pain that feels good... Yuji's accustomed to pain, but having it twinned with pleasure rather than grief is something for him to look forward to, something that he is going to find himself enjoying more than he can put into words. He'll definitely talk to Geto about it more, but it seems as though right now their focus might be on the rope...? They'll have to lay it all bare before anything starts, so...
Either way, he'll have fun.
Eyes still stuck to Geto, he nods. ]
This all sounds... Really good.
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Fair warning: the ties on your legs will cause the muscles in your thighs and ass to strain when you're in my lap – which means any spanking will likely feel more intense and potentially painful than what you're used to.
We can warm up and experiment with what feels good, but I don't want you to be caught off-guard if it hurts more than you expect right off the bat.
[ Even though Suguru really likes to make it hurt. ]
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[ Yuji knows he can ask for it to stop if he needs to, can't he? That's part of the system. He can stop it, or slow it down, or keep it going, depending on how he feels - and the same for Geto-san, too. If either of them are uncomfortable, it can end.
That's what makes it feel so much safer than doing it at home. ]
We can see what works best and what we both enjoy, can't we?
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How do you feel about incorporating more sexual play, too?
[ Suguru doesn't want to overstep and make any assumptions, of course, but he's very into Yuji. He'd like to see the younger man fall apart in subspace, maybe come his brains out, but he doesn't want to pressure Yuji as the owner of the club. ]
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The man is far too hot to say no to, even if Yuji had doubts about it.
Even the gentle probing about sex and sexual play is enough to have Yuji blushing, licking his lips as he blinks up at the man beside him. ]
I'd, um. I'd be into that, too.
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[ Suguru is trying to be mindful about what he suggests and asks for, but he also wants to find more of where they might align; he wants to help Yuji discover this on his own as much as Suguru wants to guide him there. ]
Since it's our first time playing together, I wasn't thinking anything too extravagant or involved. How do you feel about being fingered in my lap while you're still tied up or a handjob?
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Blinking, gazing up at Geto, he nods his head. Something as simple as being fingered and touched while being tied up is enough to get his cock all the more interested, hard in his trousers and feeling far, far too tight. Breathing out, he nods his head after a few moments of silent contemplation, trying to get himself to calm down.
It's difficult, because he finds that he wants this, so much. ]
Do... Do you want to do it out here, or...?
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There's room on the floor here or we could go find a private space that isn't in use. It all depends on what would make you more comfortable.
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[ There's a little bit of a thrill to it, the idea of someone seeing him completely blissed out, or watching him enjoy himself. Would people really want that...? To see him lose himself to pleasure?
He doesn't know. But he's not against it. ]
But maybe in private, for the first time?
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Yuji is just special, apparently. ]
I'm sure we can find an available room. [ None of the doors lock, since DMs and staff need to be able to enter at will, but the very nature of stepping off of the main floor tends to ensure more privacy. ]
Any injuries or physical limitations I should be aware of? Any concerns you might have?
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Instead of giving into the urge, he nods his head, glancing around the room. He's realising how important Suguru is with the way people are watching them, expectantly, as if there's going to be some kind of amazing show or some miraculous event, and it makes him a little nervous. He's brand new at this, and he doesn't think that he's going to end up being all that good, but he wants to be.
He really wants to prove himself to this man, to show that he can do it. ]
There's nothing that I can think of right now. I can use red, yellow and green for safety, can't I?
[ He did google well, actually. ]
And what should I call you?
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Those are the house safewords, yes. Unless you have something personal you'd prefer, but I was about to suggest we go with the traffic system.
[ Yuji beat him to the punch! ]
We'll go with Suguru. No honorific necessary. [ Suguru has no formal dynamics with anyone, and most around the club call him Geto-sama or just Geto. Nobody uses kink titles with him, he has no official subs or partners; he's clearly in charge and the man on top, but he doesn't dangle it over others' heads in a demand for deference. ]
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No, that's - I think that's good for now, until I can decide something else.
[ Shifting, he wiggles a little bit closer. ]
Can we go somewhere private now... Suguru?
[ Yuji is clearly... Desperate for this man to touch him, if his glances are anything to go by. ]
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He doesn't want to get carried away and inadvertently do damage. ]
Let's go find ourselves some space.
[ And he rises from the couch, offering Yuji his hand. ]
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[ Yuji shifts, pushing himself up and away from the sofa they'd been comfortable on, reaching out and letting his hand slide into Geto's without hesitation.
It's warm, and large, and it makes him swallow.
Everything about him is so attractive, so outrageously sexy, that Yuji has no idea how he was the one chosen for tonight. What could he have done to earn this? It's utterly baffling, but he's not going to let it slip through his fingers. He wants this too much for that. ]
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And hot.
Leading Yuji out of the more lounge-like room, Suguru carves a path through the various scenes occurring throughout the space, giving the occasional nod or wave to his staff as he goes. When they reach the more private location where Suguru stores his belongings, he's pleased to see that no one is currently using the room, despite the fact that it's clearly dedicated to rope. There are multiple hardpoints on the ceiling with rings and carabiners waiting to be used; there's a bamboo log suspended about six feet above the ground for different kinbaku and shibari options, and a steel spider is tucked into the corner. There aren't a plethora of riggers vying for space, so Suguru doesn't usually have to worry about waiting to use any of the facilities (despite owning it all, he doesn't presume to call dibs).
Suguru releases Yuji's hand only to go to a closet tucked in the corner, pulling a key from his pocket to unlock it. He calls casually over his shoulder, ]
Go ahead and take off everything you're comfortable removing. I just need to unpack my supplies, if you don't mind giving me a moment.
[ And he brings over a couple of duffle bags that had been locked away for safe keeping, dropping them onto the floor and kneeling to start sorting through the hanks of rope. ]
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People keep staring at them as they move, and Yuji can’t tell if they’re looking at him or the man beside him, and he feels a curl of something sour inside him. He feels marginally possessive over Suguru despite having just met, which is a silly, foolish thing to feel over a stranger.
They barely know each other. They’re just going to play. He has to keep himself calm, tamed.
Breathing out as soon as they’re somewhere private, Yuji steps over and starts to tug off his clothes. Later by layer they’re folded and placed aside, licking his lips as he turns to watch Suguru - until he’s dressed in nothing but his underwear, cheeks neon even in the half dark. ]
Where do you want me…?
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What a good question.
[ Suguru hums as he surveys the room, and then steps aside to retrieve one of the chairs that line the walls, making easy seating for observers or people waiting to use the space. But for him and Yuji, it should work just fine.
Moving the chair into the middle of the floor, Suguru gestures to a spot right in front of the seat. ]
Why don't you kneel on the floor here? I'll tie you on the ground, and then I should be able to lift you and put you in my lap on the chair.
[ Because even if Yuji looks... dense, Suguru is confident he can lift the guy when he's all trussed up and get Yuji situated in his lap, while Suguru occupies the chair. ]
That should make it easy to spank you over my knee – and allow me plenty of access to the rest of you. [ Suguru winks playfully at Yuji before he shrugs out of his light jacket, setting it near Yuji's pile of clothes. ]
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Hesitating for only one more moment, he wiggles out of his underwear and adds them to the pile before he steps over to kneel down in front of the chair, tilting his head to look up at the other man.
The angle is good - from here Suguru looks huge, and Yuji is well aware of how the position looks, how he could open his mouth and offer tongue and throat - if that’s what they were into. Right now, though, there are other plans.
He wants to see those through.
Breathing out, he rests his hands on his legs, nodding. ]
I’m ready for you, Suguru.
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